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Scan Man also claims to have infiltrated various security organizations. I
wonder if he has infiltrated or simply joined as a regular member.
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The following are highlights of a conversation with Ben Graves of TMC, around
August 25th or 26th (SR=Sally Ride BG=Ben Graves):
SR: Mr. Graves I need to talk to you about one of your employee's a Scott
Higgonbotham (Scan Man).
BG: What about Scott?
SR: Well, my company is concerned with the impact of computer hackers on our
business. Scott attended a convention in Miami around January and gave
his business card to one of our security people. I'm following up on
their conversation with the idea that perhaps my company could be given
access to Scott's electronic bulletin board. In this way we could monitor
for hackers abusing our codes.
BG: That may be something we can arrange. I know that Scott has been a great
help to TMC since we were able to pick him up. We began to have a big
problem with hackers awhile back and Scott seems to have some of the
answers. He's not in right now, can I have your number and I'll have him
call you back?
SR: You sure can. So, Scott's bulletin board has helped you reduce your
losses to toll fraud?
BG: Well, that's just one of the ways Scott has used to work on the problem.
But, he has been very effective.
SR: Thanks, Ben, I'll be waiting for the call.
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The following are highlights of conversation with Pauline Frazier of TMC from
around September 5, 1986 (Sally Ride: SR Pauline Frazier: PF)
Operator: TMC, may I help you?
SR: Yes, Ben Graves, please.
Operator: I'm sorry, Mr. Graves is no longer employed here.
SR: Oh!? Well, is Scott Higgonbotham in?
Operator: One moment, please.
PF: Hello, this is Pauline Frazier, I'm the office manager, may I help you?
SR: Well, maybe, I was trying to reach Ben Graves, I just talked to him last
week about another one of your employees, Scott Higgonbotham, now the
receptionist says Ben no longer works here.
PF: Yes, that is true, and neither does Mr. Higgonbotham.
SR: May I ask why?
PF: I'm really not able to say much, I think you should talk to our
Regional Security Director, Kevin Griffo, he's on 804-625-1110. He could
tell you much more than I can.
SR: O.K., but maybe I should tell you why I'm interested. I was talking to
Ben about an electronic bulletin board Scott is running. My company has
someone on it and we're concerned that things might not be legal on there.
There are access codes being posted of my company's and yours'. Could
that be why they're no longer employed?
PF: Do you mean he is posting TMC codes on there?
SR: Well, I can't say he's the one posting the codes, but he is letting them
be posted, along with a lot of other information such as computer logins
and passwords.
PF: Well, you know I never did like it when they hired that fellow. And,
I told them so, too. When he started we had a problem with toll fraud,
but nothing like it is now. He was able to catch a few of those hackers
while he was here, and we pressed charges, but the problem just seemed to
get worse and worse.
SR: So, he actually had some hackers arrested?
PF: Yes, several. He started working here in Charleston and then they
sent him to New York when things got bad up there. But, things never
have gotten any better since he's started here or in New York either.
Sir, please, call Mr. Griffo about all this he can tell you more than I.
SR: I will. Do you think he'd be in now?
PF: Well, it's late here and he's probably gone home, try Monday.
SR: Thanks, I will.
(But you told me plenty, sweetheart!)
[For the record I had a VERY similar chat with Pauline Frazier, it turned up
the same results.]
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The following are highlights of a conversation with Kevin Griffo, TMC,
September 9th (Sally Ride: SR Kevin Griffo: KG).